4chan How to Draw Anime
Anonymous
12/21/21(Tue)20:50:59 No.5801141
Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)20:50:59 No.5801141 [Reply]
What exactly makes an iPad + Apple pencil + Procreate so good for art? Specifically for emulating traditional art materials and creating nuanced strokes?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:21:26 No.5807093
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:21:26 No.5807093
>>5807080Need a matte screen protector to make it feel like a real pencil.
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:07:26 No.5807216
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:07:26 No.5807216
>>5806442
>Nothing will come close to iPad Pro unless screened tablets start mass adopting 120+hz refresh rate screens.
"woot NO competitor will have a 120hz screen until ALL of them have 120hz screens"
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:08:38 No.5807217
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:08:38 No.5807217
>>5806727
>highest quality engineering
Someone hasn't heard yet lol
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:11:58 No.5807223
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:11:58 No.5807223
>>5806727
>You couldn't even come close to the experience
I need 4000x8000 with 100+ layers for some detailed work, and a real pro software with actual precision tools and not some meme program like procreate, so fuck off dabbler
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:14:59 No.5807224
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:14:59 No.5807224
>>5806727
>If apple wanted to they could put out a 16" or 24" tablet for ~2k that could run Photoshop (definite possibility with M1/M1 Pro) and it would put Wacom out of business; the only reason they don't is because they made more money focusing on a more broad audience.
Thanks Captain obvious. We all know that Apple only makes dumbed down, one-button products for the stupid masses. The likelihood of them making that amazing 16" photoshop machine is about as high as Elon Musk making one.
Anonymous
12/21/21(Tue)23:42:03 No.5801405
Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)23:42:03 No.5801405 [Reply]
The smug mug website filled with croquis cafe figure drawings is now gone. Any other places I can get a lot of figure drawings? Anyone got some files or other websites?
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)11:04:20 No.5804374
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)11:04:20 No.5804374
>>5801405
>Any other places I can get a lot of figure drawings?4tube.com
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)11:20:06 No.5804422
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)11:20:06 No.5804422
>>5804374
this but unironicallyporn sites are great to learn anatomy because you see naked people doing all sorts of weird poses
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:00:42 No.5807208
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:00:42 No.5807208
>>5804422
>weird poses
Those strange and nebulous sex havers
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:05:00 No.5807212
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:05:00 No.5807212
Hoarders win again. Guck streamfagsAhahahahahahahahaha
"Why the fuck am i downloading anything, it's always online?"
Now while you wait for someone to prove hoarders wrong. You just beg again ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahah
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:10:57 No.5807220
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:10:57 No.5807220
>>5807212
>Hoarders win again.
yeah!!
Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)07:30:09 No.5804096
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)07:30:09 No.5804096 [Reply]
How goes your long term goal / project, anon?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:43:28 No.5807054
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:43:28 No.5807054
>>5806860
NTA but any tips for "learning" perspective? Like practice or exercises, not just reading?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:58:08 No.5807065
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:58:08 No.5807065
>>5807054
What do you know so far about perspective? Since you want something more specific, I'll need to know a bit about you too.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:11:10 No.5807071
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:11:10 No.5807071
>>5807065
Just the basics, I suppose. I understand the concepts of 1/2/3 point perspective, and how to do things like transfer a plane or divide a plane into equal segments, but I don't really know stuff like view cones, and I'm still pretty bad but working on freehanding rotated cubes.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:24:30 No.5807094
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:24:30 No.5807094
>>5807071
Alright, I have some ideas. What's your main goal with drawing that you want to better your perspective? Do you want to draw spaceships? Castles? Aerial shots of the city? Something else?
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:08:39 No.5807218
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:08:39 No.5807218
>>5806859
I've got a few books from them yeah, thanks. might take a while before I feel ready to tackle it though considering I'm still learning colors
>>5806860
I like the dynamics of having a cute, delicate thing as the main character in an inorganic and lifeless setting. hopefully more people will enjoy it too
Anonymous
/salt/ - Sexual alternative ar(...) 12/19/21(Sun)19:57:02 No.5796854
/salt/ - Sexual alternative art/stylization thread Anonymous 12/19/21(Sun)19:57:02 No.5796854 [Reply]
Welcome to /salt/ - The hellhole of doomed and helpful edition.
If you're looking for a place to post all sexual works, from pinups with exaggerated proportions to pornography, then this is the right general for you. Both Eastern and Western styles can coexist peacefully here.Previous thread - >>5763959
>Rules & Guidelines
1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others.
2) Please resize your images below 1000x1000 before posting.
3) Share your knowledge
4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique,
5) Remember all GB3 related content such as lolicon, shotacon, furry pornography, furry and bestiality are banned on ALL boards, including red boards, except /b/ and /trash/.>Community Resources
FellowBro's Book Collection
>mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)18:00:45 No.5806900
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)18:00:45 No.5806900
>>5806880
Huh, well i appreciate the input.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:57:42 No.5807064
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:57:42 No.5807064
>>5806578
Good work.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:14:54 No.5807079
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:14:54 No.5807079
Well with my Christmas art done I can return to
My smut.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:55:21 No.5807119
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:55:21 No.5807119
does anyone have any help for this fish eye lens shot? i think it looks ok but it also might be able to be 'pushed' further, not sure
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:07:12 No.5807215
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:07:12 No.5807215
>>5801767
thank you!! i am now working on imrpoving at hands and feet
Anonymous
/30yo/ - 30+ Year Old General 12/16/21(Thu)02:11:13 No.5790042
/30yo/ - 30+ Year Old General Anonymous 12/16/21(Thu)02:11:13 No.5790042 [Reply]
>Previous Thread:
>>5763649>Rules:
Any artist over 25 that wants to improve their artwork, and wants to post their work for critique.>What This Thread Aims To Do:
Provide a thread for any late bloomers, and positive motivation for any 9 to 5'ers looking to change their career into being art focused. Feel free to add any links worth mentioning for future threads.>Great Links For New Starters:
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/ (Goldmine for art learning, and wonderful wiki page to learn art techniques)
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn (Great page to learn how drawing techniques)
http://www.ingetang.com/praxis/old-master-drawing-bargue-gerome-drawin g-course-iii/ (Old master drawing Bargue Gerome drawing course)
http://www.michelangelo.net/drawings/ (Site showcasing many of Michelangelo's drawings)
http://www.peter-paul-rubens.org/drawings/ (Site showcasing Peter Paul Rubens' drawings) Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:40:13 No.5807004
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:40:13 No.5807004
Most recent, just a quick little piece in one sitting. 30 year old late bloomer here
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:41:02 No.5807006
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:41:02 No.5807006
>>5806682
I thought neuroplasticty was a meme. Dont scare me bro
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:52:25 No.5807024
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:52:25 No.5807024
Finished my Christmas art time to get back to goblins raping women.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:14:39 No.5807182
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:14:39 No.5807182
Another of mine. Picture lighting sucks
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:03:08 No.5807210
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:03:08 No.5807210
this thread is a blackpill.
Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:54:53 No.5807060
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:54:53 No.5807060 [Reply]
>being drawing since I was 15
>be 32
>have never done a single good drawingIt's all genetics, everything is set in stone, and destiny can't be changed. Probably a brain tumor as well.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:21:07 No.5807090
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:21:07 No.5807090
>>5807088
This is always the case isn't it
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:26:47 No.5807097
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:26:47 No.5807097
>>5807077
>imdb score: 3.8/10
kek what the fuck
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:38:53 No.5807108
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:38:53 No.5807108
>>5807097
Well I don't give a DAMN 'bout my bad reputation!
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:49:04 No.5807115
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:49:04 No.5807115
>>5807060
it hurts, but you never got the right guidance
there's a reason why there are books, mentors, and schools for this stuff
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Anonymous
12/25/21(Sat)00:03:05 No.5807209
Anonymous 12/25/21(Sat)00:03:05 No.5807209
>>5807097
it hasn't been actually reviewed by anyone.
Anonymous
/asg/ - Anime Study General 12/22/21(Wed)18:36:49 No.5803005
/asg/ - Anime Study General Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)18:36:49 No.5803005 [Reply]
Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw **Strive for quantity AND quality.**
Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don't copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you're told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)22:54:02 No.5807162
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)22:54:02 No.5807162
>>5805401
not that bad, quite accurate proportion and negative space wise
just the lines are ass, which comes with time
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:01:57 No.5807167
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:01:57 No.5807167
>>5805404
those trash books are for prokofags
at least get something from the same decade, try stonehouse's
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:09:28 No.5807175
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:09:28 No.5807175
Don't forget to get your daily bonus.
I have the pirate version and works too.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:10:42 No.5807176
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:10:42 No.5807176
>>5807175
You sure look like you've forgotten a lot. You want to be sure you're there for the last day, 200.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:55:19 No.5807204
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:55:19 No.5807204
What are these little circles that flash around characters' heads when they yell or cry? Do they have a name? What is their intended purpose?
Anonymous
12/21/21(Tue)13:18:05 No.5800310
Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)13:18:05 No.5800310 [Reply]
Least favorite art styles thread go! Mine is the western tumblr dating sim style.
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)05:49:35 No.5803944
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)05:49:35 No.5803944
>tyrese
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)06:24:13 No.5804000
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)06:24:13 No.5804000
>>5801958
adventure time has done irreversible damage to the animation industry
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)06:26:09 No.5804004
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)06:26:09 No.5804004
>>5803944
these motherfuckers truly believe disliking being misjudged by people is a personality trait
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)08:52:40 No.5804187
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)08:52:40 No.5804187
>>5804004
>thinking "le blacks dislike le racism" substitutes for a character treat
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:49:02 No.5807202
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:49:02 No.5807202
>thread degenerates into bashing blacks
...
Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)20:51:56 No.5805485
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)20:51:56 No.5805485 [Reply]
/ic/ humor thread
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)18:53:00 No.5806946
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)18:53:00 No.5806946
>>5806592
He is a nice guy, yes, but he's actually tedious when it comes to art.
You can give him +100 sources on how to improve, and he will still
need more, or ask about a topic you already helped him with a few
times before.Without mentioning him always saying stuff like "Will I get better in X
months?" "What will happen if I draw everyday for X hours for X months?"
He wants to know that he will 100% reach professional level following any
random discipline he comes up with before even attempting it.I lost track of him and many other schizos as I dropped off of Discord and
eventually /ic/, but I can bet he's still the same. He has autism, he confirmed
it himself, but I still get pretty mad about his fixation on asking the same shit
over and over again and not actually putting any effort on his work.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:05:33 No.5806956
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:05:33 No.5806956
>>5806453
I remember that. I wonder what that anon is doing now,
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George Clooney
12/24/21(Fri)21:39:11 No.5807109
George Clooney 12/24/21(Fri)21:39:11 No.5807109
>>5805939
Suicide is badass!
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:54:05 No.5807118
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:54:05 No.5807118
>>5807109Your fortune: You're on the nice list!
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:36:43 No.5807195
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:36:43 No.5807195
Anonymous
Abolish the word "anime" to de(...) 12/23/21(Thu)11:05:10 No.5804378
Abolish the word "anime" to describe art styles Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)11:05:10 No.5804378 [Reply]
"Anime" is a recent term born to indicate any animation made in Japan (yes, western animated shit can't be anime unless MAYBE it's produced, story-boarded and written in Japan and only animated by a western studio). It being used to describe art styles at this point is useless since there is not an unified "anime/manga" art style. Every mangaka or japanese illustrator isn't linked to the same art style. Hirohiko Araki and Oda don't have similar looking characters. Hell a lot of One Piece characters could be mistaken as western cartoons. I also saw people calling Yoshitaka Amano and Yoji Shinkawa anime and that stuck a nerve. Saying that every single stylized art style is part of an "art movement" or has "certain expectations" is the same kind of thought that produces misconceptions like all western comics being capeshit.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)10:23:20 No.5806379
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)10:23:20 No.5806379
>>5806358
Thats called tranime these days. Tranime is basically that hyper-derivative anime made over the last 20 years
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)10:25:47 No.5806384
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)10:25:47 No.5806384
>>5804378
In Japan, anime means animation. Disney movies are anime over there. My little pony is anime. If it is animated it is anime. It isnt hard to understand this.Only western weeaboos debate it.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)10:34:03 No.5806397
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)10:34:03 No.5806397
>>5806384
Tell that to all the retarded westoids on places like reddit or youtube who consider it a genre
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)10:38:06 No.5806403
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)10:38:06 No.5806403
>>5806365
>>5806366
I get it know, you are baiting for replies
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:14:41 No.5807183
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:14:41 No.5807183
>>5806358
how can you sound like a boomer on 4chan
Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)17:40:17 No.5805172
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)17:40:17 No.5805172 [Reply]
>Gesture is a meme
>Training accuracy is a meme
>Construction is a meme
>Anatomy is a meme
>You only need basic perspective and grinding perspective is also a memeWhy can't I find the true way.
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Anonymous
12/23/21(Thu)19:36:53 No.5805336
Anonymous 12/23/21(Thu)19:36:53 No.5805336
they are memes because the definition in the ideal sense is separate from the actual methods. retards with very narrow view of art use tricks to get you to think that what they advice is something that has always been done for the best of all great art by pointing at similarities in some sense or they attribute a vague quality in finished artworks to training regimen or special focus. sometimes people go through metaphors to extend the importance of the thing.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)18:17:01 No.5806911
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)18:17:01 No.5806911
>>5805269
Shape is a meme because it relies on space-time, which is the only non-meme. Just like anatomy and construction is an illusion of shape, shape is an illusion of space-time. Just grind physics.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)22:48:51 No.5807158
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)22:48:51 No.5807158
>>5805172
because there isnt just one answer, and art is often too broad, its up to you to narrow it down.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:11:22 No.5807178
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:11:22 No.5807178
memes:
gesture
construction
grinding perspective in a vaccum
non memes:
accuracy training
perspective practice applied to work and not boxes
anatomy
just drawing
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:12:49 No.5807180
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:12:49 No.5807180
Oh nononono the schizo is looking for agreeable shortcuts oh ho ho ho ho ho
Anonymous
post the least helpful advices(...) 12/24/21(Fri)03:09:08 No.5806032
post the least helpful advices by /ic/ Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)03:09:08 No.5806032 [Reply]
>just draw
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:30:52 No.5807102
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:30:52 No.5807102
>>5807055
All the advice on gesture I've seen in /beg/ seems to come from people who got their whole understanding of gesture from that one Proko video and line-of-action.com, even though there is no shortage of actual gesture instructors to take cues from.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:42:46 No.5807110
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:42:46 No.5807110
>>5807102
The discussion when gestures are addressed in /beg/ usually turns around to asking the beg why they are trying to do speed gestures instead of looking at the pose and doing it slowly at first. Sadly, it's pretty fucking tough to get past this point for a lot of people, so we rarely hear from them again.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:43:19 No.5807111
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:43:19 No.5807111
>>5806071
As I understood it "just draw" is bad advice because you should be studying and grinding fundies instead of drawing.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:48:38 No.5807114
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:48:38 No.5807114
>>5807110
beg in general is worthless because no one, not even the high begs has any clue how anything outside of mindlessly studying figure drawings, no style, no appeal, no composition, no perspective, no rendering, is just 1 million figures
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:11:06 No.5807177
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:11:06 No.5807177
>>5807114
That's too high of a bar to set though. If you had asked me why I wanted to draw back then and why I want to draw now, you would get two very different answers.I think if you have at least an inkling of interest in drawing, it's more than sufficient. If someone wants to draw figures, by all means do it.
I am guessing the point you're trying to make is that figure drawing is pushed on everyone without them having any say in what they'd like to draw. Well, can't say much about that.
Anonymous
Why does this happen to some p(...) 12/24/21(Fri)00:38:27 No.5805832
Why does this happen to some people? Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)00:38:27 No.5805832 [Reply]
I just got to thinking about how some people like Chris Chan have been drawing for years and haven't gotten any better? Why is this? Will this be me? I'm 19 and autistic.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)16:16:12 No.5806763
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)16:16:12 No.5806763
>>5806478
what?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:06:57 No.5806959
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:06:57 No.5806959
>>5805832
autism cripples your improvement by having very little or no self awareness to look at your own work and judge whats wrong
you have to manually learn this ability while everyone else can do it naturally
people like chris chan just didnt give any shit at all and never seeked help to mitigate his autism
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)19:08:37 No.5806962
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)19:08:37 No.5806962
>>5806763
Can you speak english?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)21:17:09 No.5807086
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)21:17:09 No.5807086
If you have self-awareness, there is hope because you can circumvent that inability and work on things that'll help you improve.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:07:20 No.5807174
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:07:20 No.5807174
>>5806962
I speak English, not Autism, you need to try again
Anonymous
WHY AM I STILL SYMBOL DRAWING? 12/24/21(Fri)14:59:53 No.5806687
WHY AM I STILL SYMBOL DRAWING? Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)14:59:53 No.5806687 [Reply]
I am sick of this, I have been trying and trying and trying with endurance, and I am even drawing on holidays for what? To still symbol draw?
Loomis,Proko, Vilppu I can read and practice these fuckers for aeons and I won't achieve a somewhat decent artwork for fuck's sake how can I make like this?WHY BUT WHY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU NEGLECTED ME?
WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO FAIL AND WELTER OVER AND OVER WHAT DO YOU WANT I AM USELESS AT EVERYTHING ELSE I CAN'T EVEN LAST FOR 2 DAYS ON A JOBOk now that I have defoged, merry permabegmas.
And friendly reminder that we are ngmi since we din't have a plastic brain or asian jins.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:34:03 No.5807050
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:34:03 No.5807050
>>5806976
>>5806990
I don't know if you're trolling or not with these replies.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:37:20 No.5807051
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:37:20 No.5807051
>>5807050
What do you mean?
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)20:42:04 No.5807053
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)20:42:04 No.5807053
>>5807051
Look at this >>5806990
You replied like shit to legit suggestions. Which reminds me why I hate replying to anyone in this board.
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:03:32 No.5807171
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:03:32 No.5807171
>>5807053
It's a shame because some of us are here to actually learn
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Anonymous
12/24/21(Fri)23:05:15 No.5807172
Anonymous 12/24/21(Fri)23:05:15 No.5807172
>>5807171
You are answering to a sperg lord
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